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Worldwide Atenist Revolution; WAR
Topic Started: Jan 2 2008, 10:29 PM (554 Views)
Nakhtpaaten
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Hello I am Nakhtpaaten. I've been an Aten worshipper for most of my life. I first learned about Akhenaten as a child; growing up in a strict Christian environment. I will tell you, I learned to hate Christianity for I went through growing up. I suffered much. Christianity is a farce as is all other so-called mainstream religions. Most of the world's problems are based on false religion. Most atrocities committed were done in the name of false religions. I say there must be a worldwide Atenist revolution to eradicate all other religions and false political dogmas. I am not ashamed to say it. Someone has to say it. If not Meryre then me. Atenism has had no appeal because it has no grand purpose but to spread peace and love; while our enemies continue in their violent ways.

I read on this site concerning the reason's Atenism became extinct and I quote, "One of them is that the religion of Atenism was too rational to appeal to the average people of any time. Another is that Akhenaten himself was too good--and perhaps too farsighted, also--to establish Atenism by means of violence." Also, "The one means by which Akhenaten could have secured Atenism's success as an international creed was violence."

These words I assume come from Meryre himself. Had Akhenaten spread his religion by the power of the sword, we today would all be Atenists and there would have never been any other religion to survive or blossom under such conditions. Today all nations would be as one and there would be peace under an Atenist world government.

Again I make no apologies for the above statements. What we need is a revolution not evangelism. We need to arouse people to action and not be passive in our beliefs. I hope Meryre you take what I say to heart. This may be my only posting to your site, unless I see that my ideas start to hold sway over ever Atenists thinking that join this group.


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Andrew
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Nakhtpaaten
Jan 2 2008, 10:29 PM
Atenism has had no appeal because it has no grand purpose but to spread peace and love; while our enemies continue in their violent ways.

I read on this site concerning the reason's Atenism became extinct and I quote, "One of them is that the religion of Atenism was too rational to appeal to the average people of any time. Another is that Akhenaten himself was too good--and perhaps too farsighted, also--to establish Atenism by means of violence." Also, "The one means by which Akhenaten could have secured Atenism's success as an international creed was violence."

These words I assume come from Meryre himself. Had Akhenaten spread his religion by the power of the sword, we today would all be Atenists and there would have never been any other religion to survive or blossom under such conditions. Today all nations would be as one and there would be peace under an Atenist world government.
Are you suggesting that we should become like the enemy?

You have said one thing that rings true in that there is something lacking in Atenism that doesn't appeal to the masses. Has Meryre been targeting the wrong audience? That is a question that I will ponder deeply; that we should all ponder deeply.

Violence as a final solution? I hope you mean to radicalize Atenism short of actual physical violence. We are not terrorists!

Yet I think a new strategy for spreading Atenism is in order. Didn't Akhenaten try to eradicate the old Amunist religion, short of violence? We should follow by Akhenaten's example.
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Andrew
Jan 2 2008, 11:54 PM
Didn't Akhenaten try to eradicate the old Amunist religion, short of violence? We should follow by Akhenaten's example.
I read somewhere that Akhenaten was an Atheist and that his attempt at the destruction of the old Egyptian religion was a power grab. Atenism was an attempt to concentrate all religious power in his hands and exploit people's superstition that he was a god. Atenism perhaps was the first glimmer of scientific thought in the ancient world. So Atenism could be called Scientific Atheism or maybe Scientific Deism.
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Paula
Jan 3 2008, 07:10 AM
I read somewhere that Akhenaten was an Atheist and that his attempt at the destruction of the old Egyptian religion was a power grab. Atenism was an attempt to concentrate all religious power in his hands and exploit people's superstition that he was a god. Atenism perhaps was the first glimmer of scientific thought in the ancient world. So Atenism could be called Scientific Atheism or maybe Scientific Deism.
I don't think Akhenaten was an Atheist. He was either a Theist who believes in one God as the creator and ruler of the universe, without rejection of revelation (distinguished from deism). Or he may have been a Deist which is the belief that God has created the universe but remains apart from it and permits his creation to administer itself through natural laws. Deism thus rejects the supernatural aspects of religion, such as belief in revelation in the Bible, and stresses the importance of ethical conduct. In Akhenaten's Hymn To Aten it is said, "No one knows you except your son (Akhenaten)...you have made him to understand your plans and your power." There is no divine revelation here. The hymn insinuates Akhenaten was born with the wisdom to understand Aten's plan and power and no one else; no divine revelation. So Akhenaten was probably a Solar Deist; he worshipped the "energy within the disk"; the disk being Aten. This life giving "energy within the disk" was Akhenaten's God, which is a universal life energy that bind us to "Aten" which we now use as the proper name for the "energy within the disk". In fact the Sun is a ball of energy, like every star in the heavens. We can perhaps distinguish "life energy" with Aten as opposed to inert "lifeless energy" bound in matter that is not biological. All biological matter comes froms the Suns energy, which is captured by plants and converted as food for all life forms.
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I would have to say that something is missing, or some step is not being taken. I don't think violence is the way (or some of the more violent doomsday cults would be much more popular), but more must be done. One step would be to go out and put up flyers around were we live, and hold meetings for people to learn more about Atenism. The internet is a good place for us to meet and learn from one another, but action must be taken out in the real world.
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