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| Topic Started: Mar 20 2008, 10:03 PM (1,083 Views) | |
| Maatkare | Mar 17 2009, 05:57 PM Post #11 |
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Thanks for your writings....now I understand better Atenism.... Last year I was in Egypt (from Cairo to Assuan)....it was really a turning point in my life. I have a strong faith in Aten, I'm feeling his living force, I have met Him even in one of my dreams, I have heard his Voice! (that's why I travelled to Egypt...) But his name was not Aten...The voice called himself Re-Harakhti...(As I know Akhenaten visited Heliopolis too....) What do you think? |
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| Davian | Mar 17 2009, 09:32 PM Post #12 |
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Sounds like Crowley. The name doesn't mater. Although I refer to myself as an Atenist, I simply refer to Aten as God. Atenism was the first monotheistic faith, and Akhnaton couldn't use the word "God" because god was not a singular concept at the time. I believe that, were he alive today, he'd find the name "God" to be sufficient. I meet a lot of Christians who are dissilusioned with their faith, and are searching for a religion just like ours. Telling them about a new way of looking at God gets them interested and can bring them over to Atenism. But using archange Kemetic language tends to put outsiders off, and isn't constructive to our religion (which isn't to say that a friendly Em Hotep amoung believers is a bad thing). |
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"A religion old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the universe as revealed by modern science, might be able to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths. Sooner or later, such a religion will emerge." Carl Sagan | |
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| Astennu | Mar 25 2009, 01:22 PM Post #13 |
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Names are transient, and are only labels we use to better understand the Divine. I use Aten, and sometimes just God, but I always feel Him no matter what name I use. I think you did hear Aten, and he simply used a name He that you would know and understand. I think maybe a little nudge to remind you for one that names are only names, and that the being behind the name is what is important. As for number two, that is between you and Aten. |
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| Astennu | Mar 29 2009, 11:12 AM Post #14 |
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I know a lot of people who think religion is something you do once a week. They go to church, get their sins forgiven and then the next week they go sin some more. That isn't what it is about! Any religion is about our whole lives, not one day or one hour. Everything we think and do is our worship to Aten. Every good deed I do is part of my worship, every good thought I have is part of my worship, and so are the rituals I do or attend. When we reach the afterlife Aten isn't going to ask what we did on the days we worshiped, he is going to look at our whole lives. Most people already know that, but don't want to admit it and they need to wake up and smell their religion!
Edited by Astennu, Mar 29 2009, 01:17 PM.
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| Atenrise | Jul 14 2009, 09:56 AM Post #15 |
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Thou appearest beautifully on the horizon of heaven, Thou living Aton, the beginning of life! When thou art risen on the eastern horizon, Thou hast filled every land with thy beauty. Thou art gracious, great, glistening, and high over every land; Thy rays encompass the lands to the limit of all that thou hast made: As thou art Re, thou reachest to the end of them; (Thou) subduest them (for) thy beloved son. Though thou art far away, thy rays are on earth; Though thou art in their faces, no one knows thy going. When thou settest in the western horizon, The land is in darkness, in the manner of death. They sleep in a room, with heads wrapped up, Nor sees one eye the other. All their goods which are under their heads might be stolen, (But) they would not perceive (it). Every lion is come forth from his den; All creeping things, they sting. Darkness is a shroud, and the earth is in stillness, For he who made them rests in his horizon. At daybreak, when thou arisest on the horizon, When thou shinest as the Aton by day, Thou drivest away the darkness and givest thy rays. The Two Lands are in festivity every day, Awake and standing upon (their) feet, For thou hast raised them up. Washing their bodies, taking (their) clothing, Their arms are (raised) in praise at thy appearance. All the world, they do their work. All beasts are content with their pasturage; Trees and plants are flourishing. The birds which fly from their nests, Their wings are (stretched out) in praise to thy ka. All beasts spring upon (their) feet. Whatever flies and alights, They live when thou hast risen (for) them. The ships are sailing north and south as well, For every way is open at thy appearance. The fish in the river dart before thy face; Thy rays are in the midst of the great green sea. Creator of seed in women, Thou who makest fluid into man, Who maintainest the son in the womb of his mother, Who soothest him with that which stills his weeping, Thou nurse (even) in the womb, Who givest breath to sustain all that he has made! When he descends from the womb to breathe On the day when he is born, Thou openest his mouth completely, Thou suppliest his necessities. When the chick in the egg speaks within the shell, Thou givest him breath within it to maintain him. When thou hast made him his fulfillment within the egg, to break it, He comes forth from the egg to speak at his completed (time); He walks upon his legs when he comes forth from it. How manifold it is, what thou hast made! They are hidden from the face (of man). O sole god, like whom there is no other! Thou didst create the world according to thy desire, Whilst thou wert alone: All men, cattle, and wild beasts, Whatever is on earth, going upon (its) feet, And what is on high, flying with its wings. The countries of Syria and Nubia, the land of Egypt, Thou settest every man in his place, Thou suppliest their necessities: Everyone has his food, and his time of life is reckoned. Their tongues are separate in speech, And their natures as well; Their skins are distinguished, As thou distinguishest the foreign peoples. Thou makest a Nile in the underworld, Thou bringest forth as thou desirest To maintain the people (of Egypt) According as thou madest them for thyself, The lord of all of them, wearying (himself) with them, The lord of every land, rising for them, The Aton of the day, great of majesty. All distant foreign countries, thou makest their life (also), For thou hast set a Nile in heaven, That it may descend for them and make waves upon the mountains, Like the great green sea, To water their fields in their towns. How effective they are, thy plans, O lord of eternity! The Nile in heaven, it is for the foreign peoples And for the beasts of every desert that go upon (their) feet; (While the true) Nile comes from the underworld for Egypt. Thy rays suckle every meadow. When thou risest, they live, they grow for thee. Thou makest the seasons in order to rear all that thou hast made, The winter to cool them, And the heat that they may taste thee. Thou hast made the distant sky in order to rise therein, In order to see all that thou dost make. Whilst thou wert alone, Rising in thy form as the living Aton, Appearing, shining, withdrawing or aproaching, Thou madest millions of forms of thyself alone. Cities, towns, fields, road, and river -- Every eye beholds thee over against them, For thou art the Aton of the day over the earth.... Thou are in my heart, And there is no other that knows thee Save thy son Nefer-kheperu-Re Wa-en-Re, For thou hast made him well-versed in thy plans and in thy strength. The world came into being by thy hand, According as thou hast made them. When thou hast risen they live, When thou settest they die. Thou art lifetime thy own self, For one lives (only) through thee. Eyes are (fixed) on beauty until thou settest. All work is laid aside when thou settest in the west. (But) when (thou) risest (again), [Everything is] made to flourish for the king,... Since thou didst found the earth And raise them up for thy son, Who came forth from thy body: the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, ... Ak-en-Aton, ... and the Chief Wife of the King ... Nefert-iti, living and youthful forever and ever. |
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| Atenrise | Jul 14 2009, 09:59 AM Post #16 |
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Perhaps the best and most concise explanation I have ever read! And to think, when I was in the 11th grade (2002), Akhenaten was taught in history class in a negative light! |
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